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+Timedrift problems with Win7: hpet missing time drift fixups
+
+We've been finding timedrift issues witth Win7 under qemu-kvm on our daily testing
+
+kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_load	FAIL	1	Time drift too large after rest period: 38.63%
+kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_reboot	FAIL	1	Time drift too large at iteration 1: 17.77 seconds
+kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_migration	FAIL	1	Time drift too large at iteration 2: 3.08 seconds
+
+Steps to reproduce:
+
+timedrift.with_load
+
+1) Log into a guest.
+2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+3) Run load on the guest and host.
+4) Take a second time reading.
+5) Stop the load and rest for a while.
+6) Take a third time reading.
+7) If the drift immediately after load is higher than a user-
+    specified value (in %), fail.
+    If the drift after the rest period is higher than a user-specified value,
+    fail.
+
+timedrift.with_migration
+
+1) Log into a guest.
+2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+3) Migrate the guest.
+4) Take a second time reading.
+5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+
+timedrift.with_reboot
+
+1) Log into a guest.
+2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+3) Reboot the guest.
+4) Take a second time reading.
+5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+
+This bug is to register those issues and keep an eye on them.
+
+Attached, some logs from the autotest tests executed on the guest
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+Does adding -no-hpet make a difference?  I assume that Win7 is using hpet by default and we currently don't do any time drift mitigation with hpet.
+
+I will try that on a separate test job and will let you know about the results.
+
+Indeed -no-hpet made the tests pass. It's still uncertain to me whether this flag is supported across several branches of qemu-kvm, if it's supported in all branches I'm going to update the upstream kvm autotest config file.
+
+-no-hpet works in every version of qemu/qemu-kvm that has included HPET support.  RHEL disables HPET support by default unlike qemu and qemu-kvm.
+
+I've updated the bug priority and title to reflect what the issue is.
+
+We only support edge triggered interrupts with HPET which seems to be what most OSes use anyway.  We could potentially use the reset_irq_delivered/get_irq_delivered APIC functions to implement interrupt catch-up but I think it would be better to try to merge Jan's generic IRQ delivered API first.
+
+Sent patch http://patchwork.test.kernel.org/patch/2384/ to autotest and will update the autotest server to reflect that option.
+
+Apparently this bug's still alive and kicking.
+
+There's an obvious clock skew problem on Windows 7; in the Date & Time dialog, the clock jumps through seconds visibly too fast.
+
+I also found a case where HPET bugs are causing a real problem: Terraria (dedicated server) seems to be relying on (something that relies on) HPET, and QEMU doesn't get it right. The result is a goofy and aggravating behavior I've nicknamed "Turbo Monsters of Doom" and it makes killing anything tougher than a normal zombie basically impossible.
+
+Forgot to add: Reproduced the above behavior in both 1.5.1 and 1.6.0. Adding -no-hpet to commandline removed both problems (full disclosure: this fix wasn't tested in 1.5.1 but I have no reason to believe behavior would be different.)
+
+Fair enough in itself, but if HPET is known to have problems with
+arguably the most popular OS family to use as a guest, why is it
+enabled by default?
+
+On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Gleb Natapov <email address hidden> wrote:
+> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 09:34:06AM -0000, Ben A wrote:
+>> Apparently this bug's still alive and kicking.
+>>
+> And no plans to fix it. Do not use hpet with windows guests this buys
+> you nothing.
+>
+>> There's an obvious clock skew problem on Windows 7; in the Date & Time
+>> dialog, the clock jumps through seconds visibly too fast.
+>>
+>> I also found a case where HPET bugs are causing a real problem: Terraria
+>> (dedicated server) seems to be relying on (something that relies on)
+>> HPET, and QEMU doesn't get it right. The result is a goofy and
+>> aggravating behavior I've nicknamed "Turbo Monsters of Doom" and it
+>> makes killing anything tougher than a normal zombie basically
+>> impossible.
+>>
+>> --
+>> You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu-
+>> devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU.
+>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/599958
+>>
+>> Title:
+>>   Timedrift problems with Win7: hpet missing time drift fixups
+>>
+>> Status in QEMU:
+>>   Confirmed
+>>
+>> Bug description:
+>>   We've been finding timedrift issues witth Win7 under qemu-kvm on our
+>>   daily testing
+>>
+>>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_load   FAIL    1       Time drift too large after rest period: 38.63%
+>>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_reboot FAIL    1       Time drift too large at iteration 1: 17.77 seconds
+>>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_migration      FAIL    1       Time drift too large at iteration 2: 3.08 seconds
+>>
+>>   Steps to reproduce:
+>>
+>>   timedrift.with_load
+>>
+>>   1) Log into a guest.
+>>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>>   3) Run load on the guest and host.
+>>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>>   5) Stop the load and rest for a while.
+>>   6) Take a third time reading.
+>>   7) If the drift immediately after load is higher than a user-
+>>       specified value (in %), fail.
+>>       If the drift after the rest period is higher than a user-specified value,
+>>       fail.
+>>
+>>   timedrift.with_migration
+>>
+>>   1) Log into a guest.
+>>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>>   3) Migrate the guest.
+>>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>>   5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+>>
+>>   timedrift.with_reboot
+>>
+>>   1) Log into a guest.
+>>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>>   3) Reboot the guest.
+>>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>>   5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+>>
+>>   This bug is to register those issues and keep an eye on them.
+>>
+>>   Attached, some logs from the autotest tests executed on the guest
+>>
+>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
+>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/599958/+subscriptions
+>
+> --
+>                         Gleb.
+
+
+Agh, I forgot reply all.
+
+Seems like something that should be changed, no? It would've saved me
+a lot of headache if there was a switch e.g.
+-optimize-for=[linux,winxp,
+win7,etc] that changed the defaults to be
+most accomodating to the specified OS as a guest.
+
+On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Gleb Natapov <email address hidden> wrote:
+> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 11:23:07AM -0500, Ben "Root" Anderson wrote:
+>> Fair enough in itself, but if HPET is known to have problems with
+>> arguably the most popular OS family to use as a guest, why is it
+>> enabled by default?
+>>
+> Arguably :) But QEMU defaults are arguably far from been optimal for any
+> guest.
+>
+>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Gleb Natapov <email address hidden> wrote:
+>> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 09:34:06AM -0000, Ben A wrote:
+>> >> Apparently this bug's still alive and kicking.
+>> >>
+>> > And no plans to fix it. Do not use hpet with windows guests this buys
+>> > you nothing.
+>> >
+>> >> There's an obvious clock skew problem on Windows 7; in the Date & Time
+>> >> dialog, the clock jumps through seconds visibly too fast.
+>> >>
+>> >> I also found a case where HPET bugs are causing a real problem: Terraria
+>> >> (dedicated server) seems to be relying on (something that relies on)
+>> >> HPET, and QEMU doesn't get it right. The result is a goofy and
+>> >> aggravating behavior I've nicknamed "Turbo Monsters of Doom" and it
+>> >> makes killing anything tougher than a normal zombie basically
+>> >> impossible.
+>> >>
+>> >> --
+>> >> You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu-
+>> >> devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU.
+>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/599958
+>> >>
+>> >> Title:
+>> >>   Timedrift problems with Win7: hpet missing time drift fixups
+>> >>
+>> >> Status in QEMU:
+>> >>   Confirmed
+>> >>
+>> >> Bug description:
+>> >>   We've been finding timedrift issues witth Win7 under qemu-kvm on our
+>> >>   daily testing
+>> >>
+>> >>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_load   FAIL    1       Time drift too large after rest period: 38.63%
+>> >>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_reboot FAIL    1       Time drift too large at iteration 1: 17.77 seconds
+>> >>   kvm.qemu-kvm-git.smp2.Win7.64.timedrift.with_migration      FAIL    1       Time drift too large at iteration 2: 3.08 seconds
+>> >>
+>> >>   Steps to reproduce:
+>> >>
+>> >>   timedrift.with_load
+>> >>
+>> >>   1) Log into a guest.
+>> >>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>> >>   3) Run load on the guest and host.
+>> >>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>> >>   5) Stop the load and rest for a while.
+>> >>   6) Take a third time reading.
+>> >>   7) If the drift immediately after load is higher than a user-
+>> >>       specified value (in %), fail.
+>> >>       If the drift after the rest period is higher than a user-specified value,
+>> >>       fail.
+>> >>
+>> >>   timedrift.with_migration
+>> >>
+>> >>   1) Log into a guest.
+>> >>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>> >>   3) Migrate the guest.
+>> >>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>> >>   5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+>> >>
+>> >>   timedrift.with_reboot
+>> >>
+>> >>   1) Log into a guest.
+>> >>   2) Take a time reading from the guest and host.
+>> >>   3) Reboot the guest.
+>> >>   4) Take a second time reading.
+>> >>   5) If the drift (in seconds) is higher than a user specified value, fail.
+>> >>
+>> >>   This bug is to register those issues and keep an eye on them.
+>> >>
+>> >>   Attached, some logs from the autotest tests executed on the guest
+>> >>
+>> >> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
+>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/599958/+subscriptions
+>> >
+>> > --
+>> >                         Gleb.
+>
+> --
+>                         Gleb.
+
+
+I google about an old link talk about this issue can be fixed by not using virtio
+
+http://forum.proxmox.com/archive/index.php/t-5783.html
+
+Looking through old bug tickets... can this issue still be reproduced with the latest version of QEMU? Or could we close this ticket nowadays?
+
+
+Absolutely, please close it.
+
+[Expired for QEMU because there has been no activity for 60 days.]
+